I'm not the kind of man who's rating such things normaly.... but for a guitarist, who's not verry schoold how to get exactly such evil bass sounds, (that sounds good ;) )Is the Bonestager absolut great! Bearly endless variations, on the simplest way to try through and without getting lost in EQ'ing and trying to distor this bass the right way..... thanks man! Painstager as well, was just not the same need, guitars are much easier for me, but withe the Bonestager, you really just gave me THAT solution for rhe moment! Thanks!